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title: "Thinking Like a CEO With John McClain"
url: "https://pro.houzz.com/for-pros/podcast-thinking-like-a-ceo"
datePublished: "2026-09-15T05:41:37+0000"
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EPISODE 14

# Thinking Like a CEO With John McClain

Founding a design business comes with a whole new territory: one where you’re running the show. In this episode, John McClain, business coach and CEO of [John McClain Design](https://johnmcclaindesign.com/), reveals how he helps designers to embody their CEO role, the crucial need for a solid contract, and the art of pricing your services to turn a profit.

[Watch on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/embed/H2_VdVZgJLQ?si=Vzsfp5vTCrAQnDJT)

[Listen on Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/episode/2X6qsgb3nhtJNUYaZQsX0s?si=b27b1904dc1e44b1)

[Listen on Apple Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thinking-like-a-ceo-with-john-mcclain/id1758015120?i=1000722749994)

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